Join Pastors Jen Kelly & Cory “Chief Judge” Shumate as they interview Judge Bob Spence. Bob served as a Deputy Attorney General for Criminal Justice in Chicago & Springfield. He was a Kane County Circuit Judge who was elected as Chief Judge by his fellow judges. Bob also serves on the board of Administer Justice, a faith-based organization providing free legal services for people who might not be able to afford legal representation. Jen & Cory discuss with Bob what Hollywood gets wrong, lessons learned within the law, and elements of Faith that can be found or integrated within the legal system.